#505 – The BEFORE and the AFTER Gospel
The Problem Of Beginning in the Earth / Time Realm
The Error of Making Man’s Dilemma the Reason for Salvation.
Man Is “SAVED” to Fulfill God’s Eternal Purpose And To Serve Him.
January 8, 2012
In the last studies we have challenged this whole concept of the Gospel of Men who have designed their counterfeit gospel to solve the problem that happened in Genesis 3 when man fell from God’s Predestined Purpose. This is what we have called the AFTER GOSPEL meaning that this gospel begins AFTER man fell. However, the Eternal Purpose of God was Established and Predestined BEFORE the earth was restored and time once again began. Time began when the Evening and Morning were the First Day. My thesis is that unless we begin our Gospel in God and His Eternal Purpose we will focus upon the desperate situation of man and design a solution to solve his strained position before God. However, this imitation of the real Gospel ignores God’s very reason for preparing the earth for the habitation of man BEFORE Genesis One. While the EVENTS Before Genesis 1:1 are mysterious, they are Not unknowable because we can discern many things from the CONCLUSION of the time / earth dimension from the Scriptures and from the Book of Revelation.
This man made Gospel is designed to solve man’s problems but does NOTHING to solve God’s Problems and His reason for Restoring the Earth. It ignores His Eternal Purpose and addresses a false concept that God created A PLACE where He could bless man and save him and take him to heaven someday. This “gospel” implies that God was lonesome in His great big heaven so He created man to have fellowship with Him. This is just the foolishness of the natural mind seeking answers to the confusing question of “Why are we here?”
The Fact that man rebelled and sinned and fell from the purpose of God did not alter one little bit what God had Purposed and Predestined BEFORE the earth was restored. Of course the problem of sin, rebellion and total alienation from God must be solved before man can BEGIN to participate in the recovery of God’s Eternal Purpose for man and this earth! However, man’s redemption is CERTAINLY NOT the final solution to God’s plan for Eternity future.
Nevertheless, man’s redemption is the very first step when man is SUPPOSED to BEGIN to participate in fulfilling God’s Purpose! To accomplish this, man must first be prepared to solve God’s desire for Eternity Future. Man’s total mind set must be rectified to focus upon God and His Purpose! For us to begin fulfilling “God’s Eternal Purpose” IS “Why we are here!”
My rebuttal of the popular gospel message begins with identifying this false concept that God created man so he could sin and then be saved so that man could appreciate God and His mercy, so we could worship Him forever! This whole counterfeit gospel revolves around man and his dilemma of being lost and alienated from God. Why? Because this “gospel of salvation” is wholly focused upon solving man’s problem of separation from God but never addresses the Eternal problem of man being created for ONE Purpose and that is to fulfill God’s Original Purpose for creating Man in the first place!
It is implied by the popular gospel that there is no purpose in Calvary except to provide forgiveness of sins and salvation for mankind! Man can then “be saved” and continue to live his life to please himself, remain totally selfish and self-centered and never be rectified in his mind! A popular doctrine in the Evangelical Church is that “the whole Bible is a Book of Salvation.” It never addresses the much bigger picture of “WHY?” Man is never confronted with the demand to surrender himself as a purchased possession of God and must now see himself as a Redeemed Slave, doing the full will of God. He must quickly bring His life and being under the Kingdom Government of God and begin a life of change resulting in transformation and obedience. This MUST result in a total change of Life, focus and direction from the outer man to the New Inner Man, who after Christ was created in the image of God.
Rom 6:20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death. 22 But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life.
1Cor 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 20 For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.
1Pet 1:17 And if you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each man’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay upon earth;
18 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
This concept of receiving the “forgiveness of sins” kind of salvation but then within the same “grace of salvation” of being enslaved to God which results in Eternal Life is an abomination within the Evangelical Church! This is loudly condemned as false doctrine. Why? Because, the Gospel of the Kingdom has been ignored and a substitute gospel has replaced it that is more acceptable to the natural man. The earth man, Adam, wants to be saved but without any obligation to God except to believe something about Jesus! To conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay upon earth is totally rejected as opposite of the grace we have received in Christ!
There are several starting points of the gospel that become the focus of the gospel message in the different groups. Some begin with (1) the church and its ministries or (2) With Baptism Or (3) with Pentecost or (4) with the fall of man in Genesis 3 or (5) with the Husband and Wife and multiplication or (6) with Adam and his Dominion over the earth. [This is where Dominion Theology begins] or (7) with Creation in Genesis 1:1.
We think the starting point defines and governs the ultimate goal. Therefore, we try to begin our gospel BEFORE Genesis 1:1 in the heart and purpose of God. We begin in His Absolute Sovereignty and in His Predestined plan and ultimate End in the Tabernacle of God and the Eternal Government of the World yet to come. His Ultimate End is defined by the Transparency of the City (bride / wife) and its fullness and perfection. This IS the New Jerusalem in the Tabernacle of God and the center of the Government of the World yet to come!
The objection to this starting place is it removes man from the center of creation and his welfare, blessing and his prosperity. This was the focus of “message” in the 1960s and those of the “faith movement.” In many of the “gospel messages” man and his salvation becomes the focus of EVERYTHING that God intends to do. This has led to the selfishness of natural man, the self-centeredness of Christians and the man / me / I focus which seems to be accepted within the visible church structure. The natural, carnal, flesh man is simply NOT DEALT WITH because the message is that God loves us just like we are. After all we are the Kings kids so we deserve the very best. Everybody who accepts Jesus as personal Savior will see His face and sit upon the throne. Of course we know now that is a garbage message because it robs God of His Absolute Sovereignty and His authority to choose whom He will accept into His Kingdom.
As with Adam, when God formed a full grown Eve out of Adam, The Father is choosing the very best and Perfect bride for His Beloved Son that is Divinely Possible. He is forming this predestined Bride out of Christ, the Living and Abiding Word of God! He will NOT accept a Baby Bride or one that has not grown up to the fullness of Him who fills all in all. We believe this was PART of His predestined plan but NOT all of it.
This creation that begins in Genesis 1and verse 3 ,in which man was a tool in the hand of God, was for the purpose of dealing with the devil and the fallen angels. Man ( predestined Man; one new man) must rise up in consecration and perfect obedience in order to judge the angels and Satan for their disobedience.
Psalms 8:2 Because of Thine adversaries, To make the enemy and the revengeful cease. 3 When I consider Thy heavens, the work of Thy fingers, The moon and the stars, which Thou hast ordained; 4 What is man, that Thou dost take thought of him? And the son of man, that Thou dost care for him? 5 Yet Thou hast made him a little lower than God, And dost crown him with glory and majesty! 6 Thou dost make him to rule over the works of Thy hands; Thou hast put all things under his feet,
God created man to satisfy HIS OWN need to solve a big problem that took place on the earth BEFORE this one which was destroyed by water. This earth was restored to deal with the angels that rebelled against God in that former creation. Now, God’s purpose for this creation is to properly deal with God’s ENEMIES and His Adversaries. How, by yelling at the devil and calling him dirty names? No! It can only be by our obedience that we can LEGALLY judge the angel’s for their disobedience. Now the devil has ALREADY been judged by the Man, Christ Jesus! This was accomplished by His total OBEDIENCE to the Father. Even the obedience unto death, even death on the cross! He is the proto-type Son but God’s purpose is to bring many Sons to that same glory. How? By a similar obedience within the New Covenant believer. This obedience is to the Father, to do His will and complete His Purpose!
This is such a simple message but it flies in the face of this counterfeit gospel of super grace and God’s unmerited mercy. The objection is that Jesus accomplished ALL at Calvary so there is nothing left for us to do. It is certainly true that Jesus has purchased salvation for us. But He has also purchased US by His own blood! Also by His obedience He has already judged Satan but God is going to judge the multitude of angels that sinned through His perfected Bride( His many sons who have grown up into the same measure and perfection of the proto-type Son).
1Cor 6:3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, matters of this life?
2Cor 10:6 and we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete.
This sloppy Agape message with its super grace message has lulled the church into a lukewarm way of life and the visible church has become irrelevant for the Total Purpose of God.
This perverted “gospel of grace” (super grace) has done more to destroy the church for the Purpose of God than the devil has ever done. Now, the deception is “eat from the TREE OF GRACE” and be like God, rather than eat from the TREE of KNOWLEDGE but it is the same lie. This perverted gospel of grace presents grace as a covering for all our sin, rebellion and selfishness. It declares that God loves us just as we are and while we are still in our sin. The REAL GRACE is to enable us to change, be rectified and live our lives in obedience to God. By this “grace” we are enabled to fulfill God’s Purpose for each of us in our generation. This “perverted grace” has been presented as a valid excuse to do nothing for God except believe something about Jesus! It presents “salvation” as another entitlement of man when he believes. Prosperity then becomes another entitlement of man when he believes. Heaven then is the final entitlement so we can enjoy God forever.
When we present the demands of the Kingdom, we are declared to be enemies of the church. Why are we not disturbed? Because, in reality, we are ONLY enemies of that carnal church system which is the counterfeit church and NOT the one He is Building. We can be certain that the Church He is Building is fully compatible with the Kingdom Government of God and is functioning in harmony with it. When it is functioning in harmony with the Kingdom, it WILL be fulfilling the Purpose for which God established it. This purpose did NOT begin at Calvary OR Pentecost but BEFORE this world was restored.
2Timothy 1:8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, or of me His prisoner; but join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God, 9 who has saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity, 10 but now has been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death, and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,
BOTH this Purpose AND Grace were given in the Eternal Dimension and did NOT suddenly arrive at Calvary but pre-dated it. This was in the Heart of God BEFORE man sinned and both purpose and grace was included in God’s purpose even IF man had NOT sinned. This authentic Grace is from the eternal realm connected to God’s Purpose! It was NEVER given as an excuse to live a shallow, lukewarm life!
This purpose, and the grace to fulfill that purpose, always existed but was only revealed by the appearing of Christ Jesus. This “genuine grace” did not begin at Calvary as is falsely declared! It was the carnality of man that has been at the root of this error and is the reason to create a false gospel with a false grace that is NOT redemptive but is just permissive. This real and eternal grace is redemptive in its nature.
The question we need to raise is this; Does God recognize this false gospel with its false grace and if He does not recognize it how does that effect those that preach a phony grace that deceives many into believing a lie? Will these “ministers” come under the Sovereign Judgement of God because they prefer the lie over the Truth? They say, of course not, because we are “saved.”
Since we were chosen in Christ BEFORE the foundation of the world, this opens up another completely different “Christian Philosophy” concerning “CHRIST” and the creation in Genesis one. This “choosing” pre-dates the birth of the Man, Christ Jesus in the time dimension. However, CHRIST, the Living and Abiding Word of God, who IS ETERNAL, became flesh in the time dimension and dwelt among us! This flesh Man is Christ Jesus.
The question this “philosophy” presents is this; Since God pre-determined to sum up EVERYTHING in Christ, did the Eternal Word of God still have to become flesh and dwell among us even IF man had not sinned? Was it necessary for man to first sin before the Word could be made flesh? If man had never been estranged from God, would an impartation of the Living and Abiding Word of God ( us in Christ and Christ in us) still have been necessary to fulfill God’s Ultimate Purpose?
Of course this question has NO relevance because man DID sin and died in his sin until God provided for his forgiveness. For this reason reconciliation was absolutely necessary. However, our thesis is that God’s Eternal Purpose was set in stone and non-negotiable BEFORE man was created and has NEVER varied from His Ultimate Design. Man’s sin was a bump in the road but that could NOT alter God’s Purpose, not even a little! Then why is this question even considered?
Because, this understanding will be necessary when we consider Jesus’ part in our reconciliation to God by His death, His Burial, His resurrection, His Ascension to the RIGHT hand of the Almighty God! Now, His function is as the High Priest (Sovereign Head) of a whole New Priesthood after the Order of Melchizedek. This is a Kingdom of Priests that has been taken from among men. Why? Because, this predestined end was NOT the result of anything that happened here on earth but was pre-determined before the world was restored. This is God’s Predestined Plan in which Jesus’ part is already established. Now, within God’s Predestined Plan, God, the Almighty, will bring MANY SONS to that same glory.
The Almighty God is Father, Word and Holy Spirit and The Man, Christ Jesus, has taken up His position at the Right Hand of Almighty God. This was NOT determined at Calvary but before the world was restored. Is God’s Predestined Plan complete? No! Now, He intends to bring MANY SONS to that same glory. What has that got to do with us?
Rom 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the first-born among many brethren; 30 and whom He predestined, these He also called; and whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
Why are these things presented in the past tense? Because, God Pre-determined these things and then He Predestined us to His Eternal Purpose! Why is this absolutely certain? Because God Predestined all this out of His Absolute Sovereignty and there is NO possibility that it will not be summed up this way! In God’s Economy it is already finished. Why? Because it is predestined.
This is at least a partial answer to the question; “Why are we here?” If our answer is anything less than “To fulfill His Eternal Purpose” it is irrelevant. If our “gospel” is man was created so he could sin and then be forgiven so he could go to heaven forever, we are wasting our time with another irrelevant message that is not even true. Well, man did sin! Yes, that is true but God did NOT predestine him to sin but to fulfill His Eternal purpose! This purpose was established BEFORE man was created and has NEVER been modified or changed in any way.
Then, to preach the Kingdom Message without this goal and understanding of His Eternal Purpose is a big waste of time. Why? It is the INTERNAL KINGDOM GOVERNMENT OF GOD that is essential for us to be prepared and equipped to fulfill that Purpose and bring joy to the Heart of the Father!
Our Gospel of the Kingdom is NOT a series of messages about the Christian life or of trying to win souls that God is NOT drawing or the Holy Spirit is NOT convicting. Our Gospel is focused upon informing and preparing a people to fulfill His Eternal Purpose and that within the demands and restrictions of the internal Kingdom Government of God. If we get THIS message delivered all the other messages, that in the current context are irrelevant, will be of some benefit!
I believe that if we preach within the context of His Will for our generation that the Holy Spirit WILL convict of sin and the Father WILL draw many souls into His Divine Preparation. However, if we insist upon preaching irrelevant messages that have NOTHING to do with God’s Will or with HIS DESIGN for this day, in our generation, that we will waste our Life and our time. However, we may be cooperating with a fallen system of “messages” and a system of church that God has not designed or that even cares about His Purpose for creation. These “systems” may have just created a personal agenda and their own goals to further their own plans and ambitions.
What we see now are EARTHLY STRUCTURES WITH A HEAVENLY PURPOSE being built, like the Tower of Babel. God is ONLY interested in His DESIGN which is to build a HEAVENLY STRUCTURE WITH AN EARTHLY PURPOSE.
We may be wasting our life and our time trying to build something that God is going to destroy. The confusion of messages, agendas, programs, system of worship and perceived goals of reaching heaven with some earthly structure is the very nature and essence of Babel, which means confusion. It is CERTAIN that the source of all this confusion is NOT the Living and Abiding Word of God but is coming from the sons of Adam.
Gen 5:3 When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth.
Everybody since Seth, that were born of natural sperma, are born in the image and likeness of Adam and NOT in the image and likeness of God as is commonly preached. If we put this natural man in the pulpit, it is impossible to guess where he will lead us. He may just be interested in building an earthly structure! Remember, a man may speak in tongues and still minister just as a natural man, like we see in the Book of 1 Corinthians.
While the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is ONE of the essential foundations, it is no GUARANTEE that this will produce a spiritual ministry in tune with what God is doing or saying. This is No guarantee that we will be led by the Holy Spirit and be sons of God. We may still just be led by the flesh and be displeasing to God. However, we may still hold a titled position in the church.
This is the terrifying thing about this natural church system.